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. ♪ >> you can take your jazz cigarette and mary jane but me and steve know the truth path to enlightenment is prescribed by doctors. side effect may include exhilaration, colored lenses. >> jon: al m ( cheers and applause ). >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight, former senator from wyoming, also the cochair of the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, also known as the simpson/bowles plan, please welcome, senator allan simpson. sir. >> yuck man. young man. >> how are you? >> jon: nice to see you, senator, how are you? >> good, i saw that last segment. i thought maybe that would liven everything up for me. ( laughter ). i don't want to get into that. that wouldn't be a thing to do. >> jon: next time i'll make sure it's in the gift bag for everybody. ( laughter ). >> maybe just the cookies. >> jon: just the cookies. ( laughter ). so let me-- let me start with you. two years ago, two and a half years ago, you are aproasmed to chaiapproached tochair a commits to set up a deficit reduction plan for the country. you study it. you're very diligent. everybody hates it within 2
. ♪ >> you can take your jazz cigarette and mary jane but me and steve know the truth path to enlightenment is prescribed by doctors. side effect may include exhilaration, colored lenses. >> jon: al m ( cheers and applause ). >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight, former senator from wyoming, also the cochair of the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, also known as the simpson/bowles plan, please welcome, senator allan simpson. sir. >> yuck man....
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steve is also a former policy adviser for new mexico senator jeff bingaman. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you rachel. >> am i being naive to think this was going to pass? >> a lot of people thought it was going to pass. of all the treaties, this would be the easiest to pass. there were other treaties pending. this is about people in need and it didn't. this is a branch of the gop that did you want represent all republicans, but it's the obnoxious nationalist wing that really resents any international deal making. there's a lot of worry not just about people with disabilities, but all the other treaties that position the united states and show that it can be the primary sculptor of global affairs, and we're defecting from that as of today's vote. >> so 126 countries ratifying this, but us, not ratifying it. particularly when it's modeled on our law. that takes us out of a global leadership role? >> it leaves a void that the united states is walking away from the responsibility of primary leadership in the world of sculpting global affairs in th
steve is also a former policy adviser for new mexico senator jeff bingaman. thank you for being here. >> great to be with you rachel. >> am i being naive to think this was going to pass? >> a lot of people thought it was going to pass. of all the treaties, this would be the easiest to pass. there were other treaties pending. this is about people in need and it didn't. this is a branch of the gop that did you want represent all republicans, but it's the obnoxious nationalist...
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a response to an argument that was starting before former adviser steve ratner and minnesota democratic congressman keith ellison with near glee. there is no real choice about that. we're clear social security is off the table. this is, to me, the much more interesting debate between tom and dan. >> you want republicans arguing. both sides are also battling for control of the debt ceiling which may represent the republicans' greatest point of leverage in these budget talks. goo the speaker of the house says that's a nonstarter. >> silliness. congress will never give up the power. i've made it clear to the president. we need cuts in reform greater than the increase in the debt limit. >> bottom line, you've got to put a detailed plan on the table that the white house ends up agreeing to some of it, rejects some of it in the same way the white house is arguably overplaying their hand on taxes. the question is whether you're going to see two full fledged plans be put on the table. republicans for now, including speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell both say, hey, all these plans are familiar
a response to an argument that was starting before former adviser steve ratner and minnesota democratic congressman keith ellison with near glee. there is no real choice about that. we're clear social security is off the table. this is, to me, the much more interesting debate between tom and dan. >> you want republicans arguing. both sides are also battling for control of the debt ceiling which may represent the republicans' greatest point of leverage in these budget talks. goo the...
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. >> steve, what is the army's role in all of this. that's the piece people don't understand. you have morsi, muslim brotherhood and others behind this constitution. liberals, secularists opposing it. where does the army stand? >> the military has essentially removed itself from the political system. the new military leadership that came into power in mid-august as a result of morsi's declarations have a deal with him. they were relieved of the burden of having to govern egypt. removing themselves from the political system is more in keeping with the history of the egypt armed forces since the 1967 defeat when they determined being a political army was not good for their organization and their ability to fight a war on the battlefield. >> when you look at the struggle, is it first of all essentially the islamist versus the secularist, and is it fair to say as everybody does the islamists have greater appeal, they're better organized, they're going to win this? >> i think it is, right now there are basically three groups here that are contending for the loyalties of the great u
. >> steve, what is the army's role in all of this. that's the piece people don't understand. you have morsi, muslim brotherhood and others behind this constitution. liberals, secularists opposing it. where does the army stand? >> the military has essentially removed itself from the political system. the new military leadership that came into power in mid-august as a result of morsi's declarations have a deal with him. they were relieved of the burden of having to govern egypt....
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steve jobs or ashton kutcher? we're getting a first look at the film. [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars that moment you enjoy it at home. to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> we're getting our first look at ashton kutcher as steve jobs this morning. here is cnn's michelle turner. >> we can share the first image from the film which stars ashton kutcher behind the legen
steve jobs or ashton kutcher? we're getting a first look at the film. [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars that moment you enjoy it at home. to help those affected and...
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steve said it best from the outset. if the president does not get off to the right start here, it makes it incredibly difficult, if not at a minimum, complicated, to get the rest of his agenda through, not to mention all the foreign policy challenges that will be the backdrop. steve indicated this is the most important thing that will be done. he's likely right unless there's something that we don't want to at all think about or foresee for the next few years, so you have to get this right or get it done to get to the next step. >> but on the specifics of it, steve, why should we be optimistic? who's going to move from their position, and why would they? >> the reasons to be optimistic, you have two prose prose propos table that are robust. the president's made important concessions on revenues. the democrats have made concessions on addressing entitlements, not insufficient for the other one, and what we're fighting over now is this issue of tax rates. and the republicans do have to give on tax rates. it's going to be
steve said it best from the outset. if the president does not get off to the right start here, it makes it incredibly difficult, if not at a minimum, complicated, to get the rest of his agenda through, not to mention all the foreign policy challenges that will be the backdrop. steve indicated this is the most important thing that will be done. he's likely right unless there's something that we don't want to at all think about or foresee for the next few years, so you have to get this right or...
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. >> congressman steve from new york and chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. good afternoon, sir. >> hi, martin. >> congressman, notwithstanding the fact that speaker boehner's office is considered mathematically dyslexic by many economists, has it surprised you some republicans have actually condemned boehner's office and would much prefer to keep taxes as they are and take an axe to social programs, medicare, in order to reduce the deficit? >> what's to surprising about that? for so many republicans, they said in the 1990s they wanted medicare to wither on the vine. you know, they now think they have the opportunity to do it in 2012. speaker boehner's proposal is based on the mathematical equation, two plus two equals whatever you want it to be. that's not how you grow the middle class. you do it in a balanced way. let's reduce the deficit we've already supported, $2 trillion in spending cuts, but let's do it in a way by asking the richest 2% to do their fair and grow the economy by making smart investments and things like job creating infrastructure. that'
. >> congressman steve from new york and chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. good afternoon, sir. >> hi, martin. >> congressman, notwithstanding the fact that speaker boehner's office is considered mathematically dyslexic by many economists, has it surprised you some republicans have actually condemned boehner's office and would much prefer to keep taxes as they are and take an axe to social programs, medicare, in order to reduce the deficit? >>...
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they're then going to believe -- >> i hear what steve is saying there. i'm standing in your camp, which is a rare spot for me to be in, standing in chris's camp here, but i think you're right. i think the markets have not baked this into their equation. >> dysfunction and childishness. >> dysfunction and childishness has nothing to do with my bottom line, necessarily, in terms of how i'm going to pay for things necessarily. yeah, i get the political side of that. but as a market force, i don't think they've baked that in, number one. number two, i don't think that the president is going to allow this thing to get to that point. i think they're going to cut a short-term deal to get through that first quarter of next year. >> kick it down the road. >> no. who is the only hero from this election besides the president? the only hero? chris christie. the only one running 72%. people of all colors, all ethnic groups, you poll them, i have been in the rooms, i was there recently, they want a peace treaty of some kind to make it work. they don't want a big victo
they're then going to believe -- >> i hear what steve is saying there. i'm standing in your camp, which is a rare spot for me to be in, standing in chris's camp here, but i think you're right. i think the markets have not baked this into their equation. >> dysfunction and childishness. >> dysfunction and childishness has nothing to do with my bottom line, necessarily, in terms of how i'm going to pay for things necessarily. yeah, i get the political side of that. but as a...
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a lot is people are unsure about the economy these days and the post-steve jobs era. >> even around christmastime when the products are popular as gifts. >> you think retail sales would translate well because there's so many other issues there besides how much they sell in the store. >> it's interesting. we'll see what happens with this case and if it has an impact of consumers that own these products. thank you very much. >>> marijuana is now legal under washington state law. that tops our look at stories around the "news nation." take a look. that's how they celebrated in washington state. the news came down after midnight as you know at the seattle center. it allows people to possess up to an ounce of pot, but they cannot smoke it in public. that looks like public to me. the police department will issue verbal warnings to violators. that explains the public video. lawyers for software company founder john mcafee sought guatemala denied his asylum. they detained him for entering the country illegally. he's wanted for questioning in connection with the murder of his neighbor. he denies any invol
a lot is people are unsure about the economy these days and the post-steve jobs era. >> even around christmastime when the products are popular as gifts. >> you think retail sales would translate well because there's so many other issues there besides how much they sell in the store. >> it's interesting. we'll see what happens with this case and if it has an impact of consumers that own these products. thank you very much. >>> marijuana is now legal under washington...
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thanks for joining us, steve. first of all, what about the scenario that oh let's just let them go over the cliff and won't matter and the markets will view it as a nonevent. what do you think some. >> certainly going to matter. there's no question it's going to matter. it's going to matter to the markets. we don't know how much. this is an unprecedented situation, at least in my lifetime. we've had crises and debt ceilings and all that, but going over a cliff like this is a new one. the markets would be volatile, extremely -- a lot of downward pressure on them. and then the question would be how do businesses and consumers behave and quickly do they pull back? everyone knows the immediate impact from the government coming back and spending wouldn't be that great. the question then is how do businesses and consumers react? i don't think it will be a pretty sight. >> what about the debt ceiling? there was a suggestion? geithner's opening bid that they do a permanent fix and give the president the operative control
thanks for joining us, steve. first of all, what about the scenario that oh let's just let them go over the cliff and won't matter and the markets will view it as a nonevent. what do you think some. >> certainly going to matter. there's no question it's going to matter. it's going to matter to the markets. we don't know how much. this is an unprecedented situation, at least in my lifetime. we've had crises and debt ceilings and all that, but going over a cliff like this is a new one. the...
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joining us now to discuss is steve, chair of the gay and lesbian victory fund. great to have you. >> nice to be here, alex. s. >> so a lot of tea leaf read and arm chair prognostication around this. i am by no means a supreme court expert, but when i saw that they were taking up both doma and prop 8, question as to whether they would take up inform i them at all, it seemed to me a signal that the court was ready to make a big decision, and i just cannot imagine, especially when you have conservatives like john roberts, who maybe sort of a fiscal conservative and vote in support of something like citizens united, but socially does not seem to be as conservative as, say, scalia. that they would be looking at the ark of history and say they are ready to make this law of the land. your intripgs now three days after they announced? are you feeling bullish or bearish? i asked you this on friday. i ask again. >> i'll bullish. i think the court wants to get in front of history and behind it. it is so clear where the country is moving. there is a poll this morning that s
joining us now to discuss is steve, chair of the gay and lesbian victory fund. great to have you. >> nice to be here, alex. s. >> so a lot of tea leaf read and arm chair prognostication around this. i am by no means a supreme court expert, but when i saw that they were taking up both doma and prop 8, question as to whether they would take up inform i them at all, it seemed to me a signal that the court was ready to make a big decision, and i just cannot imagine, especially when you...
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our guy steve groves was writing papers on this weeks and weeks ago. we're also surprised frankly the senate would bring it up in a lame duck session. this is something that needs full and considered -- >> they're going to bring it up again next year. you won't be there. >> they can bring it up and we'll take the same position. >> should there be a compromise in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? john boehner's already $800 billion in increased tax revenue, not necessarily raising the marginal tax rate on the wealthy, but capping deductions, limiting loopholes, are you with the speaker of the house on that? >> unfortunately, wolf, the policies of president obama have already taken us over the cliff. if you meet with businesses like i do all the time, they've already paired back plans for next year anticipating what's going to happen. we can fix this christmas eve if we want, but we've already hurt the economy and job growth. >> are you with boehner? >> i'm not with boehner. this government doesn't need anymore money. this country needs less go
our guy steve groves was writing papers on this weeks and weeks ago. we're also surprised frankly the senate would bring it up in a lame duck session. this is something that needs full and considered -- >> they're going to bring it up again next year. you won't be there. >> they can bring it up and we'll take the same position. >> should there be a compromise in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? john boehner's already $800 billion in increased tax revenue, not...
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with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. andrea mitchell. and in new york, msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. and the co-anchor of "street signs," brian sullivan. we've got a lot to talk about, mike barnicle, but i saw a headline on the front page of "usa today," a tease that is very intriguing, and that is one of the greatest players in major league baseball trying to get his worth right now. and if i were a major league team, i would pass on josh hamilton in a new york second because the guy phoned it in when his team needed him the most. there's an attitude problem. and yet he could be such a huge payoff. are the red sox looking at josh hamilton? >> i think any team that's looking at hamilton is looking at no longer than three years with him because of the things you just mentioned. >> he, of course, had an addiction problem, a terrible addiction problem. he got passed -- it was an inspiring story, but he seemed to fall off the cliff. n
with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. andrea mitchell. and in new york, msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. and the co-anchor of "street signs," brian sullivan. we've got a lot to talk about, mike barnicle, but i saw a headline on the front page of "usa today," a tease that is very intriguing, and that is one of the greatest players in major league baseball trying to get his worth...
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. >>> a new movie about steve jobs will premier at the sundance film festival. you see ashton kutcher looks like a young jobs. it covers a 30 year span. another movie you have to see. >> i will see it for sure. thank you. >>> you're in "the situation room." syrian rebels laying siege to a key government military base. aur own arwa damon is on the ground inside syria and behind rebel lines. and violence spreading in egypt. protesters break through barriers to attack police as ambulances race to the presidential palace. and why a father fears he'll never see his 5-year-old daughter again unless the united states supreme court steps in. >>> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> weeks of violent protests in egypt are now spreading. demonstrators, angry at a perceived presidential power grab, delivered their outrage today at the presidential palace in cairo, where at one point protesters breached the security barricades. you just got back from some of those violent protests at t
. >>> a new movie about steve jobs will premier at the sundance film festival. you see ashton kutcher looks like a young jobs. it covers a 30 year span. another movie you have to see. >> i will see it for sure. thank you. >>> you're in "the situation room." syrian rebels laying siege to a key government military base. aur own arwa damon is on the ground inside syria and behind rebel lines. and violence spreading in egypt. protesters break through barriers to...
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basically have everything you've accomplished at alabama wiped off the map because the end will be -- steve spurrier still hasn't recovered from his stint in washington. the guy was a football god. he went to washington and immediately the stories started, you know, that this guy was bush league. he was a college coach. if saban goes up and fails a second time -- and god bless him, he's done enough for alabama, he deserves that right, or do you want to be remembered the greatest college football coach of all time? he sticks around another ten years, wins more champion sshi people consider this guy the john wooden of college football. >> when you look at what they've done p college coaches, that could be the lure, but he was miserable when he was at miami. in his second year with the dolphins, he was looking for opportunities back at the college game. i think it would take a lot to get him back to the nfl. when you look at all the teams that will need coaches -- >> but why go? >> well, money. a lot of money. a whole lot of money. >> in the words of dire straits, he's got a daytime job. he's
basically have everything you've accomplished at alabama wiped off the map because the end will be -- steve spurrier still hasn't recovered from his stint in washington. the guy was a football god. he went to washington and immediately the stories started, you know, that this guy was bush league. he was a college coach. if saban goes up and fails a second time -- and god bless him, he's done enough for alabama, he deserves that right, or do you want to be remembered the greatest college...